Surge Strategy
There's a reason why I haven't written whether I think the Surge Strategy will work or whether it's a good idea. I'm not an expert in any of the disciplines necessary for my opinion to have any value. In fact, most of my knowledge regarding the Iraq War comes from secondary sources, written by other people who are similarly ignorant, i.e. the press.
The vast majority of reporters and columnists who write about Iraq and pretend to know what they're talking about are completely incompetent to do so. Not only is their journalism degree inadequate for the task (it's a glorified general ed degree) but their undisguised bias robs their output of any credibility. Yet, from my desk chair, I'm forced to rely on these people almost exclusively for my information. So, as a result, my opinions are just about as worthless.
That's why I'm taking a wait and see approach. I do consider myself an expert on another thing, though: I'm an expert on the domestic battlefield. This is why I have said over and over again that we must achieve success in Iraq quickly, because if Americans don't see progress soon, our next president will pull the plug on the whole noble enterprise.
So I was very encouraged when the President yanked the most recent generals in charge, good men though they might be, and replaced them with guys who understand the need for a change in strategy. Today is General Petraeus's first day on the job. His resume is impressive.* He's had success before.** I wish him and his new strategy well.
Australian Lt. Col. David Kilcullen is an advisor to Gen. Petraeus and an expert on counter-insurgency strategy. He's also a Duntroon grad and a veteran of East Timor. In this post at Small Wars Journal, Kilcullen outlines the two schools of thought regarding counter-insurgency.***
An illustrative anecdote:
In Timor in 1999 I worked closely with village elders in the border districts. I sat down with several of them one afternoon to discuss their perception of how the campaign was progressing, and they complained that the Australians weren't securing them in the fields and villages, that they felt unsafe because of the militia (the local term for cross-border guerrillas) and that we needed to do more to protect them. In actual fact, we were out in large numbers, securing the border against infiltration, patrolling by night, conducting 14 to 21-day patrols in the jungle to deny the militias a chance to build sanctuaries, and working in close in the villages to maintain popular support. There had not been a single successful attack by the insurgents on the population for more than two months. So, "objectively", they were secure. But -- and this is the critical point -- because our troops were sneaking around in the jungle and at night, staying out of the villagers' way and focusing on defeating enemy attempts to target the population, they did not see us about, and hence did not feel “subjectively” secure. This was exacerbated by the fact that they had just experienced a major psychological trauma (occupation, insurgency, mass destruction and international intervention) and as a society they needed time and support for a degree of "mental reconstruction". Based on their feedback (and that of lots of other meetings and observations) we changed our operational approach, became a bit more visible to the population and focused on giving them the feeling, as well as the reality, of safety. Once we did that, it was fine.
In other words, we had to shift from a more enemy-centric approach to a more population-centric approach to adjust to the developing situation. My personal lesson from this experience was that the correct approach is situation-dependent, and the situation changes over time. Therefore the key is to develop mechanisms that allow you to read the environment, to be agile and to adapt . . .
Adaptation is the key, and I'm glad to see that we're trying something new. I hope it works.
You can see how the above example illustrates the need for more troops and contact with the population. It's more than just switching to a zone defense from man-to-man. At least in the short run, our new strategy will provide the enemy with more opportunities to kill Americans. We're not going to like that here at home, and I have no illusions that the media will understand what's happening or that a different strategy is at work. The commanders in theater, and the President must realize that the home front will not cut them any slack and they have to get it right this time.
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Posted by: shelly at February 10, 2007 12:04 PM (SLFj+)
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Annika,
Why should a lack of expertise stop you from commenting?It should qualify you to become Speaker of the House
Posted by: corwin at February 10, 2007 01:04 PM (fWdXB)
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But is visibility a good thing in Iraq?
I'm thinking of Saudi Arabia circa 1990, where the people may have been thankful for our protection, but they probably DIDN'T want to see us strutting around with our short sleeve shirts and our Bibles and our other infernal gear.
In the ideal world, Saddam would have been removed by a coalition of forces from Muslim countries. Of course, the post-Saddam outcome might have been the same; Palestine isn't quite the peaceful vacation spot just yet.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at February 10, 2007 02:32 PM (P8ktI)
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Nicely Done
I cannot understand the hysteria over the President wanting to move 2% of the troops from one location to another.
Posted by: Jake at February 10, 2007 03:21 PM (V6rxT)
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As always a good analysis of the situation.
My opinion of the problem is the GW has been doing all the heavy lifting with the Iraq problem. I'm kind of glad that the American people are reacting to this conflict dragging on as long as it has. Maybe it'll put some spine in the Iraqi leadership to consider that we might just leave them alone to deal with the consequences, or the US military to start using some imagination in their operations.
Also I was in the gym and digging through the pile of magazines and one was a Newsweek from like Jan 1, 2007. It had a great article on Denmark, Moslem's and the controversy's they've had to deal with. It was reported that there was so little conflict in Denmark that the Moslem's had to basically export the issue to get any attention.
Finally, where is the analysis on the real news... Anna Nichol Smith? This great American goes on to the "other side" and no opinion about it? Are you going to make me read the Drudge Report?
Drake
Posted by: Drake Steel at February 10, 2007 04:25 PM (m6MSU)
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Drake,
I met her in Tahoe during a 4th of July bash a few years back and - this may stun you - the girl was kinda dingy. To be fair, though, she was very nice and even talked to us non-star types. I remember thinking that despite being sort of heavy at the time she was a strikingly attractive woman in person.
Posted by: blu at February 10, 2007 04:41 PM (duPNB)
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Annika -- I wanted to point out Mudville Gazette's post on the Surge in case you haven't seen it. Even as close to the battlefield as we Army families are, I wasn't properly versed in what the Surge meant. I think it's been really glossed over and misrepresented in the places I've heard about it. Anyway, I was ignorant before I read this post, so I'm spreading the word. http://www.mudvillegazette.com/archives/007609.html
Posted by: Sarah at February 11, 2007 07:14 AM (BP8jf)
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Thaks so much Sarah, for that really informative link.
I, like most Bush supporters, have been wondering why he didn't explain the details a bit more. But this article makes it pretty clear what the "surge" means, and why it now makes a lot of sense to me.
I've just sent it to over 300 people who are, mostly, like minded. I hope that it gets wide circulation.
Posted by: shelly at February 11, 2007 08:32 AM (SLFj+)
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OK, I'm willing to bet that of all the candidates for President of the United States right now, there is only one who has read Petraeus' book on counter insurgency.
And he won't even be a candidate until September.
The next POTUS.
Can you say "President Gingrich"?
Posted by: shelly at February 11, 2007 06:01 PM (SLFj+)
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What about the Dixie Chicks and their surge strategy? I believe that the Dixie Chicks will bounce back, thanks to the political friends they know in high places that seem to have pulled a few strings for them prior to the Grammys, as I've noted in this song:
Playin' Politics (With the Dixie Chicks)
Dr BLT (c)2007
http://www.drblt.net/music/DixieChicks.mp3
Posted by: Dr BLT at February 16, 2007 12:44 PM (jgGlP)
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A brief note of sincere applause to Annika for (1) admitting that she is not informed in a certain subject and (2) refraining from commenting on it until she becomes more informed.
Anyone who has the humility to do that consistently is light years ahead of 95% of the population.
I liked this too:
"Not only is their journalism degree inadequate for the task (it's a glorified general ed degree)"
AMEN!
Posted by: Mark at February 19, 2007 02:50 PM (krump)
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I thought Peter and Glowee broke up...so I just went back and pretty much read all the past PPTSP.
There's some funny shit in there, annika.
Posted by: Victor at February 09, 2007 02:09 PM (1oGDT)
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Get a life loser.
I hear that Ballentine
Has got him five to nine,
And the Farmer's brother's
A Friend of mine.
Posted by: Casca at February 09, 2007 06:30 PM (2gORp)
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OK, for youse guys what never hoid of Guys and Dolls, this here's the original lyrics to "Fugue for Tinhorns".
NICELY-NICELY
I got the horse right here
The name is Paul Revere
And here's a guy that says that the weather's clear
Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do
If he says the horse can do, can do, can do.
(Benny starts singing his part at this time, while Nicely continues
Can do - can do - this guy says the horse can do
If he says the horse can do - can do, can do.
(Rusty starts singing his part as the time, while Nicely and Benny continue
For Paul Revere I'll bite
I hear his foot's all right
Of course it all depends if it rained last night
Likes mud, likes mud, this X means the horse likes mud
If that means the horse likes mud, likes mud
Likes mud.
I tell you Paul Revere
Now this is no bum steer
It's from a handicapper that's real sincere
Can do, can do, this guy says the horse can do.
If he says the horse can do - can do - can do.
Paul Revere. I got the horse right here.
BENNY
I'm pickin' Valentine, 'cause on the morning line
A guy has got him figured at five to nine
Has chance, has chance, this guy says the horse has chance
if he says the horse has chance, has chance, has chance
I know it's Valentine, the morning work looks fine
Besides the jockey's brother's a friend of mine
Needs race, needs race, this guy says the horse needs race
If he says the horse needs race, needs race, needs race.
I go for Valentine, 'Cause on the morning line,
The guy has got him figured at five to nine
Has chance, has chance, this guy says the horse has chance
Valentine! I got the horse right here.
RUSTY CHARLIE
But look at Epitaph. he wins it by a half
According to this here in the Telegraph
"Big Threat" - "Big Threat"
This guy calls the horse "Big Threat"
If he calls the horse "Big Threat",
Big Threat, Big Threat.
And just a minute, boys.
I've got the feed box noise
It says the great-grandfather was Equipoise
Shows class, shows class.
This guy says the horse shows class
If he says the horse shows class
Shows class, show's class.
So make it Epitaph, he wins it by a half
According to this here in the Telegraph.
Epitaph! Valentine! Paul Revere!
I got the horse right here!
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Posted by: shelly at February 09, 2007 07:53 PM (SLFj+)
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All in all you're just a dick with no balls, casca.
Posted by: Victor at February 09, 2007 08:11 PM (l+W8Z)
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Tsk, tsk, Victor.
When one is reduced to name calling, certainly one has reached the bottom of the barrel; I'd say about three fathoms lower than whaleshit.
Posted by: shelly at February 10, 2007 03:23 AM (SLFj+)
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Glass houses, Shelly...unless "mental midget" is a term of endearment to you.
Posted by: Victor at February 10, 2007 05:44 AM (l+W8Z)
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I don't know why the word "gourd" is so funny--but it is. This reminds me of Freshman year at Princeton High School in New Jersey. I had a huge crush on the senior who was playing Nicely Nicely Johnson, Jon Tenney. I never spoke to him--just worshiped him from afar. He was an awesome performer.
Fast forward 20-some years and he's a Broadway, t.v. and movie actor who used to be married to Teri Hatcher. One day in the late 90's I turned on the t.v. and realized that the guy playing the lead on a new (short-lived) cop show was that guy I liked in 9th grade.
Posted by: Joules at February 10, 2007 05:49 AM (u4CYb)
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Alright, there are two bloggers at Annika's Journal: Annika and Victor. From now on, I'm declaring a moratorium on all unprovoked attacks on the management. Up to now, I've allowed things to be pretty rough and tumble in the comments, but this schoolyard bully shit is getting on my nerves, so cool it.
Posted by: annika at February 10, 2007 09:52 AM (JBltT)
Posted by: Brad at February 10, 2007 10:03 AM (9ADYb)
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Annie:
How'd you do in Con Law?
Did you get to the 1st Amendment yet?
Posted by: shelly at February 10, 2007 11:24 AM (SLFj+)
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Ah, now I understand the IM conversation. To tell the truth, I'd completely forgotten the comment, and it had nothing to do with our resident cell-block-punk, Victor being the author. ANYONE who'd go back and reread the Peter Pumpkin chronicle is by definition not engaged in a productive life.
Posted by: Casca at February 11, 2007 07:50 AM (2gORp)
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Now you've got me wondering... has the management synchronized menstrual cycles yet?
Posted by: Casca at February 11, 2007 08:05 AM (2gORp)
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LOL.
So, here's a good law school final exam question:
Was that "unprovoked"?
For extra credit: What difference does it make?
Alternate question for extra credit: Outside of a crowded theatre, where can one yell "Bullshit" without being censored? (Knowledge of the existence of the 1st Amendment is required for this option)
Posted by: shelly at February 11, 2007 09:40 AM (SLFj+)
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Was that unprovoked? Not by your definition. Hell, it's obvious your and Casca's petty jealousy is such that if I were to open a window on a hot summer day, you'd consider that sufficient provocation to start slinging insults around.
As for what difference it makes--not much, I concede, because your definition of provocation gives you the right to attack if I so much as blink. It does, however, demonstrate a total lack of respect for annika and for the spirit of her rules (if not the letter, for reasons discussed above).
As for your last question--C'mon, Shelly. People give up their right to total "Freedom of Speech" all the time (court orders, non-disclosure agreements, being asked, "Does this dress make me look fat?") under threat of a sanction of some sort. If that isn't censorship, I don't know what is.
Posted by: Victor at February 11, 2007 11:03 AM (l+W8Z)
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You don't know what is.
Like all liberals, the rules don't apply to you, since right is on your side.
Me, I stopped hiding behind skirts a long time ago.
Posted by: shelly at February 11, 2007 11:26 AM (SLFj+)
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OUCH! LMAO! Dammit Shelly, I was saving that one for later. Since some here have been likened to "Bullies", to continue the analogy, maybe others wouldn't get their ass beat if they didn't have their mommy walk them to school? I'd suggest moving to a new neighborhood where the big boys aren't so mean. lmao
Posted by: Casca at February 11, 2007 02:29 PM (2gORp)
Posted by: physics geek at February 09, 2007 07:10 AM (KqeHJ)
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Come to think of it, those Mac commercials (the real ones) do remind me of Democratic campaign comercials. I have no particular allegiance to any platform, I have used (and have installed/fixed/etc., as a pc tech and admin) all of them. But most of the crap they say about Windows just isn't true.
Posted by: GyorgLyquor at February 09, 2007 05:55 PM (A4kZO)
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Annika.......those have been around forever.....now this is a funny video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxQm3IsSKAo&eurl=
Posted by: jason at February 09, 2007 09:32 PM (izVy1)
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Thank you, my sentiments exactly!
Although, I have I to admit I am concerned that the only 'person' that agrees with me is a deranged pumpkin.
Posted by: Brad at February 08, 2007 08:53 AM (9ADYb)
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I appreciate the underlying sentiment of the statement (remember that I live in Kobe-land), but it's interesting to note that the statement is usually said by the leader.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at February 08, 2007 10:04 AM (y2frB)
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Too funny! It reminds me of "The Office"--which makes me laugh every week.
Posted by: Joules at February 08, 2007 12:04 PM (u4CYb)
You Heard It Here First
I'm telling you, the secret's getting out. The latest Gallup poll reveals:
In a head-to-head matchup against McCain in a Gallup poll of Republicans and Republican "leaners" taken Jan. 25-28, Giuliani beat the Arizona senator handily in most categories: better public speaker, more likable, better chance of beating the Democratic nominee, would run a more positive campaign, would perform better in debates, would do more to unite the country, would manage the country more effectively, would be better in a crisis, better understands the problems faced by ordinary Americans, and strength of leadership.
What did I just say?
The Monitor article from which I pulled that quote also says that Giuliani's approval ratings are at 62%. Sixty-two percent! That will change as the attack machine heats up. But I ask you, can anyone name another public figure with numbers over 60%? I can't think of one. That's unheard of in this age of hyper-negativity.
On the other hand, some analysts say that McCain's recent dip in polling is due to his more vocal support of the President's Surge plan. It's possible that not a lot of poll respondents knew Giuliani's position on the Iraq War is identical to McCain's. Or maybe they do, but they just trust Giuliani more.
That's my take. Even if I liked McCain, I would always favor a guy with executive experience over legislative experience. Theoretically, executives must work in the real world where results are expected. Therefore, they should be more results oriented. Legislators on the other hand, work in a world of theoretical projections, possibilities and imaginary outcomes. When they fuck up, they're rarely held to account because they simply blame the other party, the executive, or both.
[How can I quit blogging this summer when Campaign '08 is already so interesting?]
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For me it's a matter of trust. I know all of Rudy's warts. They have been on the front pages repeatedly. Ditto McCain's. I trust Mr. Mayor to be able to lead in a more honest manner than McCain. McCain has done too many things (campaign finance, gang of 14, Keating 5, for and against social security reform, etc). I would vote for him against Hillary or Obama or any other dem (except Lieberman) but in Rudy vs McCain it's not even close for me and I'm a rabid right wing nut.
Posted by: chris at February 07, 2007 04:51 PM (QZTLy)
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Just wait till the straight talk express starts flinging mud. Nobody does mean like the Senator from Arizona.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 06:57 PM (yB636)
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Don't count in it, Kyle. The R's are down to their last bastion right now; they need a win, and they know it. If BOTH are on the ticket, what happens then?
Well, there's your answer. I think they'll make nice in the end.
Think Kennedy-Johnson. Go back in time (I assume most of you don't remember, but can read about it)to 1960. Both Kennedy and Johnson appeared at a joint caucus of the Texas and Massachusetts delegations and Johnson vowed that he would NEVER accept the Vice Presidental nomination.
Twelve hours later, Bobby offered it, then withdrew the offer. Johnson was then begging for it and threatening what he'd do if he didn't get it.
One heartbeat away from the presidency, in this era ain't bad. Gore and Cheney changed that.
Posted by: shelly at February 08, 2007 04:21 AM (SLFj+)
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I'm completely anti-Rudy and anti-McCain. Rudy, while talking a good game, still comes out looking like a Chicago liberal when it comes to many of the rights of the people. His stance on personal ownership of firearms keeps tracking back to "display a need," "register," etc.
If the (R) throw up Rudy/McCain against Hillary, we will have the floor wiped with us. It will either result in a heavy (D) win, or an independent is going to end up capturing much of the south and mountain states, but not winning the election, giving us Hillary in the end.
Rudy seems to resemble British conservatives; he's all for surveillance, authoritarian law and order, etc.
McCain is a no-go for a ton of reasons; he's like the (R) version of Clinton. He will say whatever, to whomever, to ensure that MTV likes him and the MSM calls him a "loose cannon," a "rebel," etc.
Posted by: Jmarsh at February 08, 2007 07:40 AM (J0G4s)
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Rudy's got a lot of skeletons in his closet and much of them aren't known nationally. His negatives will start going up when they talk about his personal life, corruption and cronyism in the mayor's office, and his mistakes in the aftermath of 9/11.
Posted by: PoliticalCritic at February 08, 2007 09:29 AM (B9HSl)
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"his mistakes" after 9/11."
That stuff is already starting: I saw a wire story on the so-called "mistakes" yesterday. They also mentioned a book taking the same position. Koch was interviewed in the wire story and said that Rudy deserved all the positives he got after 9/11, but that NYC was over him on 9/10. In other words, 9/11 rejuvinated him as a politician.
So far, he hasn't taken many hits. You are right to say that it will start soon. We'll see if he can handle it.
JMarsh,
Please explain how the candidate with the highest negatives from either pary is going to "wipe the floor" with either McCain or Rudy, both of whom are fairly articulate and experienced men with solid GWOT credentials? I'm not saying either is the perfect Rep choice, but that Hillary has a ton of political problems to overcome. Suggesting she is going to wipe the floor with these two in a general election makes no political sense to me. Now if you were talking about somebody like Brownback, I'd probably agree.
Posted by: blu at February 08, 2007 09:57 AM (duPNB)
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Agree with Koch (and Blu). If September 11 hadn't occurred, Giuliani wouldn't even be running for dogcatcher today. I'm starting to hope for a Tancredo - Kucinich election; perhaps we'd have some discussion of issues.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at February 08, 2007 10:08 AM (YWsCw)
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I agree w/Blu on Rudy, NYers & 9/10.
As for a positive 60+ rating, only Obama & Rudy have them right now. However, Rudy's stuffed closet will eventually be opened. The dems are saving the salvos for when they can do the most damage.
A private poll that will be released this weekend, shows that in a contest between Obama & Hillary, it's Hillary that would win by a large margin. So a Hillary/Obama might be a possibility. However on the Rep's side its still too early to tell. A lot can happen in 18 months
Posted by: michele at February 08, 2007 10:43 AM (Po6a+)
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Blu,
I have been editing this to try to make this less gun-centric, but it's not working
. I'm not trying to get into a 2A debate, and hopefully what I'm getting at will be apparent.
There are a fair number of folks like me that have litmus tests for firearms. I think they're reasonable and simple: 1) No registration (other than the defacto form already in place with BATFE's form 4473) and 2) You don't need to display a need for a firearm, you can buy one just because, as guaranteed by the 2A.
They're articulate, and at least Rudy seems to generally believe he's doing the right thing, and he's got some convictions. No problems there, or with GWOT stances. But, there is something that looms larger, and that's freedom, as enumerated by the Constitution. Hillary wants to pillage my economic freedom, while Rudy would have no problems plastering millions of cameras throughout the US, a la the UK. Rudy seems very wedded to the anti-crime track, but there isn't a higher power (ie, the 2A) that he feels is important to respect. *That* is the problem. (McCain has issues with the 1A, among other things).
The basic problem we are faced with is, for instance, Hillary vs. Guiliani, maybe with a libertarian on the ballot. We've got Clinton/Dole/Perot all over again. I, and others, cannot vote for someone that is (insert your conservative litmus test of choice here) hostile to gun ownership as Rudy, even if it's to keep the human apocalypse that is Hillary out of office. Some surely will as the "lesser of two evils" strategy, of course. When a democrat (Richardson) has a friendlier approach to gun ownership than a republican, there is a serious problem.
Rudy and McCain have created negative groundswells throughout people that are pretty solidly (R) otherwise, via past documented action. How many of them will apply my version of the litmus test in 08? Don't know. But, there's not a lot of wiggle room to soften one's stance on gun control, for instance, when you've been quoted throughout your entire political career of note as solidly in one direction as he is.
Expanding a bit past gun control, I think the problem that many (R) will have is that they've taken what are traditionally democratic stances on too many issues recently. Supported medicare drug benefit? Got those. Supported McCain-Feingold? Check. Support amnesty for illegals? Yep. Trashed the GWOT/Iraq/WMD/etc? Yeah, those are (R) too. Agree with CEO pay "adjustment?" Check. Complained about oil profits? Those too. Supported continued ban of offshore drilling?
You see where I'm going? They're pretty indistinguishable from each other on "current events," which brings things like the support of second amendment that much more into the forefront. Frankly, Rudy, good virtuous man that he is, forces me to campaign against him (which I'm already actively doing).
Posted by: Jmarsh at February 08, 2007 04:08 PM (J0G4s)
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JMarsh,
Fair enough. Well articulated position. Thanks for taking the time to put it out there. In the end, we just have different priorities, which is why you have the primary and put those priorities out there for people to debate. My priorities are free market economics and the GWOT. The Reps are not always good on either, but generally they are much better than the Dems.
Posted by: blu at February 08, 2007 05:30 PM (duPNB)
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JMarsh gets at what I think the purpose of Libertarians and true Conservatives should be, which is anchoring the right flank of the political spectrum. Meaning there should be a solid anchor to our viewpoints and policies, which is well known and unchanging. There may be people who vary from that conservative position depending on the issue, but once "Conservatism" becomes a sliding scale, all is lost because there's nowhere to go but left. Ronald Reagan understood this when he proposed that we get rid of the Energy and Education Departments. George W. Bush does not understand this when he proposed and got DHS and Prescription Drug Entitlements. What the Libertarians get right (and thank God for them, because these days they're the only ones making the case) is that there is such a thing as a slippery slope and somebody has to put the brakes on.
Of course, you might ask, so how can you support Rudy. First, I didn't say I'd vote for him in a primary. I feel free to vote my conscience in all primaries, which is why I never vote for a pro-choice candidate in primaries. But when the general comes, It's always a lesser of two evils thing. I know enough about the political situation nowadays that I'm a realist. I want a Republican in the White House, and so I will vote for whoever gets the nomination, unless it's McCain. I like Rudy because he can win. In a perfect world, we could tolerate a moderate Republican president if he is counterbalanced by solid conservatives in Congress. Unfortunately, that is not the case today. But the alternative is a phony centrist Democrat like Clinton/Bomber and a bunch of whacked out communist political appointees sneaking into the beauracracy who'll take years to ferret out, and only after doing incredible damage (e.g. Jamie Gorelick). That's what really scares me about a Democrat in office. There are a million Amanda Marcottes chomping at the bit for a low level appointment and if/when the next Democrat administration comes along they are going to flock to D.C. and someone is going to find a spot for them.
Posted by: annika at February 08, 2007 07:24 PM (JBltT)
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Well said JM. The jist of Reagan's charisma was his willingness to differentiate between who we are, and who THEY are. We wandered in the wilderness from the Depression until 1980 because the accomodationists ran the party. Rudy and the McCainiac are a return to the wilderness years. There is only one heir to Ronaldus Magnus, and we all know who he is, and whatever the CW is about him, they said worse things about Ronnie.
Posted by: Casca at February 08, 2007 07:54 PM (2gORp)
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I'm beginning to believe that none of the current Republican candidates can go the distance.
The true heir (according to Casca) has to be Newt. He says he'll run if his ideas are not being carried by some other candidate; a sure thing that he gets in when the others falter.
He led us to the biggest victories we've experienced since Reagan, and he can do it again, provided they get him a suit with no zipper.
But, what the Hell, it never affected Bubba, so let's all wait for Newt to come to the game.
Posted by: shelly at February 10, 2007 09:42 AM (SLFj+)
The judge released the Astronut chick on bail because he didn't consider her a flight risk! In what universe is she not a flight risk?!?! Hellooooo!?!? She's a pilot. She can fly! By definition that makes her a flight risk.
And not only that, she's an astronaut. What's to stop her from getting into her spaceship and flying off to another planet tomorrow? Then the only way we could catch her is by sending a team of astronauts after her. And I doubt we have many astronauts trained in law enforcement.
This is a bad situation just waiting to happen. What if, for instance, she escapes to the moon? Would the cops/astronauts have jurisdiction there? Maybe at Tranquility Base, since that's U.S. territory. But what if she hides out in some other crater with a jug of water, some Tang and a box of Depends? We might never find her. I don't think her GPS bracelet is going to be much help on the moon.
Or what if she made it all the way to Mars? I'm sure there's no extradition treaty with the Martians, and they hate us anyway. Oh those Martians would jump at the chance to grant asylum for an ex-astronaut simply to embarrass us, like the French do with Roman Polanski. Those Martians think they're so superior, just because their orbit is bigger than ours.
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Another Boat School grad does us proud. Let's review:
(1) Jimmy Fuckin' Carter. Nuff sed.
(2) John "What First Amendment?" McCain.
(3) Lisa "Crazy Bitch" Nowak.
Fan-freakin'-tastic.
On the plus side of the ledger, at least Bobby Heinlein was one of ours.
Posted by: Matt at February 07, 2007 09:20 AM (10G2T)
Posted by: Mark at February 07, 2007 10:04 AM (2MrBP)
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Thanks Mark.
Matt, you forgot Jim Webb. I bet we could come up with at least a couple hundred before the end of the day. The Naval Academy is fucked up. West Point on the other hand tends to produce uniformly good leaders.
Posted by: Casca at February 07, 2007 10:35 AM (Y7t14)
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Dunno 'bout West Point. Custer, for instance.
And on the plus side for the squids, I'd like to add Adm. Fluckey. Betcha if a statistical analysis was done, the flake/hero ratio would be about the same.
Posted by: Victor at February 07, 2007 11:19 AM (1oGDT)
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sorry Casca, can't concur with you on the Point.
two words: Wes Clark
"ring knockers" bleh. give me a 2ndLT from Texas A&M or another state school any day...
Posted by: jcrue at February 07, 2007 11:23 AM (ZDQoM)
Posted by: Swamp Rabbit at February 07, 2007 12:49 PM (chQH7)
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Not really buying that either, Casca. I've known a few woops in my day. They're about the same. Get past all the PR bullshit and the service academies aren't really much different. (Nor are A&M, VMI, the Citadel or Virginia Tech immune from the problem. My battery commander -- the one who got sent to be the 2nd MarDiv urinalysis coordinator after we returned from a float that he royally fucked up -- was an A&M grad. What an idiot.) The Point has produced its share of freaks, too. MacArthur, just to name one. (A history prof of mine had spent a lot of time studying MacArthur and interviewing people who knew him well -- family members, former aides, etc. The guy really was a freak.)
Posted by: Matt at February 07, 2007 12:51 PM (10G2T)
10She likes the moon!
I hope they keep her away from any dirigibles or zeppelins. Or lightbulbs.
Posted by: The Law Fairy at February 07, 2007 01:50 PM (XUsiG)
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Jeez, I'm talking about recent history, not sixty years ago, and one bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch. Peacetime generals are the product of politics. Take it for what it's worth.
There are most definitely differences between the academies. For producing combat leaders, give me a West Pointer or VMI grad. That's not to depricate the product of state schools, but everyone knows that the aggies are famous fuckups, too much bullshit between their ears. I base my observations on direct personal contact. I spent a month as a peer at Ft Benning with 100 USMA cadets, and six months with the cream of the USNA at basic school, along with a dozen USAFA grads. I know these guys pretty well. My early impressions were only reinforced by the contact I had during my career. The Navy and Air Force acadamies should be closed. They're social clubs that foster their own particularly perverse cultures. I would never trust a boat schooler, on the other hand a USMA grad's word tends to be good.
Posted by: Casca at February 07, 2007 04:30 PM (2gORp)
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This incident precludes women from being sent into space ever again. The cosmic radiation in space affects their brains and turns them into sex maniacs.
No telling what would happen if all the women in space became sex maniacs. OH..........never mind
Posted by: Jake at February 07, 2007 04:52 PM (V6rxT)
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LawFairy, I totally forgot how much I loved those guys!
Posted by: annika at February 07, 2007 09:19 PM (JBltT)
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Annie, how'd you do in Crim Law?
As a guy who set a lot of bails (Including Patty Hearst, The Griffith Park Sniper, etc.) you have to know that bail is not to hold someone because you think they are going to do something horrible. It is to ASSURE RETURN to face the charges.
The thing is, she isn't going anywhere. She's got three kids, a house and an ankle bracelet that they can track her with. If she takes it off, it beeps and they are on her. They beep her and she has to call them back right away or they know it's off and they swoop in. And be sure, they are tracking her with survelliance on a 24/7 basis, maybe with the cooperation of her shipmates.
No way to hold her the way the prosecuters wanted; they just wanted to have her in so they could keep building their case with her. It is that need to win them all that pervades every prosecutor's office in the world.
Except Aruba.
Posted by: shelly at February 08, 2007 04:33 AM (SLFj+)
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Enjoyed Casca's Osmond Brothers reference, even if it was unintentional.
Pro for West Point - Ulysses S. Grant.
Anti for West Point - Ulysses S. Grant.
The good thing about...um...EXTREMELY MOTIVATED people such as Lisa Marie Nowak (why is the news dropping the "Marie"?) is that they're only motivated to do one thing. At least until she starts sending love letters to Brit Hume.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at February 08, 2007 10:13 AM (YWsCw)
Posted by: shelly at February 08, 2007 12:05 PM (SLFj+)
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I base my observations on close personal contact, too, being that I'm a Canoe U grad and spent five months at Ft. Sill, plus six at TBS (and four years living with various exchange cadets). But of course my observations are no more unbiased than yours.
Posted by: Matt at February 08, 2007 02:49 PM (10G2T)
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Now your shit is in the street. I'm from a different generation. They weren't coed then.
Posted by: Casca at February 08, 2007 08:20 PM (2gORp)
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My dad would have have said to you, "you talk like a girl with a paper ass! He was a man with a very limited sense of humor.
Posted by: mike at February 08, 2007 09:20 PM (UNYWb)
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They're social clubs that foster their own particularly perverse cultures. I would never trust a boat schooler, on the other hand a USMA grad's word tends to be good.
I like the way you think Casca (not that I'm unbiased on the subject)..
Ross Perot..I digress..
Although generalizing, one factor that reinforces these cultural differences is the community sub-cultures in the Navy (Surface Warfare, Submariner, Aviators, etc) and to a lesser degree in the USAF (pilots versus well, everyone else).
Posted by: Col Steve at February 09, 2007 09:09 AM (pj2h7)
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It looks like NASA administrator Mike Griffin gave Karl Rove a call and asked for something to draw attention away from this story. You know, a hurricane or something. But the truthers are on to the hurricane generator in the White House basement, so Rove had to try something different.
So he had Anna Nicole Smith whacked. It worked like a charm since this astro-nuttiness is now below the fold on page 19. Just hope that a bunch of the male astronauts don't start claiming to be the real father of Anna's baby ...
--HH
Posted by: Go 4 TLI at February 10, 2007 06:31 PM (TmKwU)
Wednesday is Poetry to Kick Ass By Day: Robert Burns
My beloved Caps are in a slump. Tonight they were listless and slow, and lost in a shootout to a shitty team...again. Clearly, they need some poetry to stir their blood, and who better to do it than Robert Burns?
Besides, annika and I both missed his birthday last month...January 25.
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It was just before midnight Eastern when I posted that. Yeah, I futzed with the time stamp a bit, but what's ten minutes?
Posted by: Victor at February 07, 2007 08:41 AM (1oGDT)
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Kyle, my deepest apologies for deleting your comment! I accidentally double-posted my comment, then selected yours when I went to delete the double comment.
I gotta stop going to hockey and baseball games in the middle of the week.
Nahhh.
Posted by: Victor at February 07, 2007 08:45 AM (1oGDT)
Posted by: annika at February 07, 2007 08:57 AM (JBltT)
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Go, Robert Burns! http://www.burnsheritagepark.com/ My dad was stationed on a submarine tender (USS Holland) in Dunoon, Scotland from '77 to '79. My goal is to have a cottage there someday and split my time between Dunoon and San Diego. My husband says, "There's nothing to do in Scotland."
Posted by: Joules at February 07, 2007 10:35 PM (u4CYb)
The Second Annual AJFF: Elizabeth Taylor, Part One
As promised, we begin our tour of Elizabeth Taylor in the 60s. I might just as easily have called it Elizabeth Taylor, the Richard Burton years. She and Richard were the Brangelina of their day, and they made nine movies together during that decade.
Taylor and Burton began their affair during the filming of Cleopatra, while they were both married to someone else. Today we'll take a look at their second movie together, released the same year as Cleopatra.
The V.I.P.s, 1963
A movie poster for The V.I.P.s promises:
ELIZABETH TAYLOR... and RICHARD BURTON... in a story about... that exciting chemistry: man and woman! The emotions... are measured... in megatons!
The copy is deceptive, because V.I.Ps is really an ensemble film. If you count up all the Academy Awards owned by members of the cast, the total comes to six. Taylor won two, Maggie Smith won two, Margaret Rutherford won one (for The V.I.P.s) and Orson Welles won an honorary Oscar. That's not to mention Richard Burton's seven Oscar nominations (he never won).
Despite its dream-team cast, the movie is not another Ishtar. There are some really good performances, most notably Louis Jourdan's as Elizabeth Taylor's paramour.
Taylor does what she can with a script that assigned her the least interesting character. Her performance is subtle, and as usual she conveys as much with her eyes and a tilt of the head as she does with her lines. But Jourdan's character is the one we get to know best. It's a love triangle story. Jourdan is the playboy gambler who has stolen Elizabeth Taylor away from her rich husband, Richard Burton. Interestingly, at that time, Burton was in the process of stealing Taylor away from Eddie Fisher.
The other plot lines involve Rod Taylor as a charming but unlucky Australian businessman and Maggie Smith plays his girl Friday, who's secretly in love with him. Orson Welles plays a characature of a film director, who tries various schemes in order to dodge the onerous British tax system. Welles's storyline is intended to be comic relief, but ends up being totally forgettable. Welles was in the middle of his second European exile, and perhaps he needed the money.
Since the movie centers loosely around a transatlantic airline flight, it's fun to see a romanticized version of passenger air service, Fifties style. In the movie, BOAC assigns a special guy just to take care of the first class passengers. When the flight is delayed, they all get luxury suites in the BOAC hotel, and a car to pick them up in the morning. Nice.
But even back then, there were nasty flight attendants. Here's how Margaret Rutherford as a disheveled, pill popping duchess dealt with one impudent stewardess:
Duchess: Conductress... Conductress!
Stewardess: (coolly) Did someone call something?
Duchess: Yes dear, I did. Will you please put this thing in the hold.
Stewardess: In the hold?
Duchess: Well, wherever you do put luggage that isn't wanted on the voyage.
Stewardess: If you had wanted this with your other luggage, you should've thought of that earlier, shouldn't you've?
Duchess: (regally) If that is a question to me personally, yes. If it is a general comment on human behaviour, it is an extremely unoriginal one, and hardly worth making. Kindly dispose of this hatbox.
Stewardess: But I have no room.
Duchess: Well then, you must make room, mustn't you dear.
Rutherford's character has some really funny lines, but giving her an Academy Award for that tiny part reminds me of Jack Palance's Oscar.
Maggie Smith, whom I love, and whom you probably know best as Professor McGonagall of Gryffindor House, is wasted in The V.I.P.s. If you want to see how wonderful an actress she is, do rent The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie right away.
I gave The V.I.P.s a 3 out of 5 on the Neflix scale: "liked it." Put it on your movie watching queue only if you're a serious ET/RB fan, which I hope you will be by the end of this film festival. But before I leave you, I want you to look at the chair in this next screencap closely.
Strawman is probably the only one who may recognize it as a Poul Kjærholm design (at least a knockoff). When I was in Denmark last summer, I had the pleasure of seeing a Kjærholm exhibit at the Louisiana museum on the east coast of Sjælland. I totally want that chair.
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you can get a facsimile of it at Ikea, I'm not shittin you.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 04:54 AM (lw6jc)
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BTW I always thought Taylor was an underated actress. In the sense that she was more the "super star" and object of tabloids than just a person plying a trade. But in certain rolls she was excellent. She was also a great beauty. Far better looking to me than the many blond bimboes who were all the rage in the fifties and sixties.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 04:57 AM (lw6jc)
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"Brangelina of their day", I have a hard time seeing Richard Burton as a mimbo. Maybe Liz was the 60's version of AJ, but she never reached her level of steamy sexuality/freak. No, Larry Fortenski is the Brad Pitt iteration.
Why would I want a chair, that doesn't look comfortable to sit in?
Posted by: Casca at February 07, 2007 07:34 AM (Y7t14)
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Casca,
Because you sit on your ass not your eyes, but you knew that, right?
Posted by: strawman at February 07, 2007 12:35 PM (9ySL4)
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I heard you did something else with your ass straw.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 06:59 PM (yB636)
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kYLE,
rEALLY? SOunds like you have been sitting in too many public toilets waiting for that knock on the door that you pine for.
Posted by: strawman at February 08, 2007 08:01 AM (9ySL4)
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Ms. Annika,
How wonderful of you to remember the Gipper. My favorite guy too, although for quite different reasons I'm sure. Be sure to enjoy a jelly belly today in his honor.
Over and out,
X
Posted by: Major X at February 06, 2007 08:40 PM (N155d)
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Yes, and Yes! He is defintiely the hero of us all.
Although I doubt that many of you received a Judgeship from him, as did I.
I also doubt that many of you were privileged to write a Thousand dollar check for the first Fifty Thousand seed money for his presidential campaign.
I, on the other hand, had the pleasure of both, in that very order.
Who woulda thunk it? A great man, really not appreciated in his own time.
Reminds me of our current President, MY President, George W. Bush.
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 10:32 PM (SLFj+)
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Whoops - may I also mention that my jelly belly will come from a jar personally handed to me by then Governor Reagan, bearing his seal and name?
The jar is the same, the jelly bellies are constantly replenished due to hungry grandchildren.
But the feeling is still there.
Remember to spill them out before choosing one; this is known as "Reagan Jellybean etiquette".
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 10:36 PM (SLFj+)
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"A great man, really not appreciated in his own time."
I can't tell if you're referring to Reagan or yourself in that sentence, Shelly!
I too have a jar of jelly bellies purchased at the Reagan Library on my desk.
Posted by: annika at February 07, 2007 02:59 AM (JBltT)
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In a way it is quite disturbing and saddening. Why? well I listened to Reagan's keynote speech again given at the Republican convention in 1964. Thats over forty years ago. and the problems he was addressing were the exact same problems we have now, only now they are worse. It really seems that no progress has been made. Or damn little.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 05:00 AM (lw6jc)
An astronaut drove 900 miles and donned a disguise to confront a woman she believed was her rival for the affections of a space shuttle pilot, police said. She was arrested Monday and charged with attempted kidnapping and other counts.
U.S. Navy Capt. Lisa Nowak, 43, who flew last July on a shuttle mission to the international space station, was also charged with attempted vehicle burglary with battery, destruction of evidence and battery. She was denied bail.
. . .
Police said Nowak drove from her home in Houston to the Orlando International Airport to confront Colleen Shipman.
Nowak believed Shipman was romantically involved with Navy Cmdr. William Oefelein, a pilot during space shuttle Discovery's trip to the space station last December, police said.
Nowak told police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according to an arrest affidavit. Police officers recovered a love letter to Oefelein in her car.
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When she found out that Shipman was flying to Orlando from Houston, Nowak decided to confront her, according to the arrest affidavit. Nowak raced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers so she wouldn't have to stop to urinate, authorities said.
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry.
Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, Nowak boarded an airport bus that Shipman took to her car in an airport parking lot. Shipman told police she noticed someone following her, hurried inside the car and locked the doors, according to the arrest affidavit.
Nowak rapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches when Nowak started crying. Nowak then sprayed a chemical into Shipman's car, the affidavit said.
Shipman drove to the parking lot booth, and the police were called.
During a check of the parking lot, an officer followed Nowak and watched her throw away a bag containing the wig and BB gun. They also found a steel mallet, a 4-inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and garbage bags inside a bag Nowak was carrying when she was arrested, authorities said.
Inside Nowak's vehicle, which was parked at a nearby motel, authorities uncovered a pepper spray package, an unused BB-gun cartridge, latex gloves and e-mails between Shipman and Oefelein. They also found a letter "that indicated how much Mrs. Nowak loved Mr. Oefelein," an opened package for a buck knife, Shipman's home address and hand written directions to the address, the arrest affidavit said.
Police said Nowak told them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into talking to her about her relationship with Oefelein and didn't want to harm her physically.
"If you were just going to talk to someone, I don't know that you would need a wig, a trench coat, an air cartridge BB gun and pepper spray," said Sgt. Barbara Jones, a spokeswoman for the Orlando Police Department. "It's just really a very sad case. ... Now she ends up finding herself on the other side of the law with some very serious charges."
If convicted of attempted kidnapping, Nowak could face a maximum of life in prison.
Her first mistake was going to Nick Nolte's stylist before the arrest.
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I tried to track back this one, but kept getting "Error 500, Bugger."
Clearly that "alien life form" has more power than I realized.
Posted by: NOTR at February 05, 2007 10:29 PM (GCLgj)
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The government, and military is riddled with these crazy bitches. Bizarre behavior, but sounds like she walks with a simple assault plea, don'tcha think?
Posted by: Casca at February 05, 2007 10:54 PM (2gORp)
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How would you like to be in a tight situation with this one at the controls?
Posted by: Leonard at February 06, 2007 08:58 AM (0Co69)
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I saw this articlel today and heard about it to. I guess some people do a lot with diapers! I am not sure whether this report incident goes in my blog but might qualify because she might have ruined the rest of her astronaut flight career.
Posted by: dreric1kansas at February 06, 2007 09:21 AM (QEc94)
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 09:35 AM (SLFj+)
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Wow...what a slammin' hottie! I'd like a photo of the other chick to see what this astronaut had to choose from.
Then perhaps the two could "space joust" for his affections. The first one to knock the other into outer space wins his love.
That would be cool...
Posted by: Billy at February 06, 2007 09:59 AM (SLFj+)
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A girl like this, when she's not putting your cat in the microwave, is a total blast: passionate, excited, totally into you, generally makes life exciting, and totally experimental in bed. Unfortunately, even very bright and passionate people, can have a totally obsessive side that comes out when, as here, they get dumped, cheated on, or see things coming to a close. I confess, I have a slight preference for these slightly nutty drama queens; they make life interesting, and if you're lucking you get in the news and your "social value" will rise tremendously when her emails about missing your "talented fingers" or whatnot gets known to the public.
Posted by: Roach at February 06, 2007 10:01 AM (1BjlW)
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Thanks for sharing Roach. Billy, you need to get out more. She's a skankly affirmative action manling. From the mugshot, it appears that she didn't use the diaper to go number 2.
This story is getting even better. Turns out she is married to someone else. This is the byproduct of sexual repression in the military. It turned the Navy into a bunch of hypocrits.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 10:19 AM (Y7t14)
Posted by: The Law Fairy at February 06, 2007 01:14 PM (XUsiG)
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Many jokes with "open the pod bay doors, Hal" as the punch line are floating through my mind.
Posted by: annika at February 06, 2007 01:29 PM (zAOEU)
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you should hear the Talk radio stations here in Houston. Its all they can talk about. So many people calling in to say "I know her, she seemed normal to me" Well, duh! thats what you always hear about serial killers too.
Posted by: kyle8 at February 07, 2007 05:02 AM (lw6jc)
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Dammit, it just came to me... Astronut. Soon it will be ubiquitous.
Posted by: Casca at February 07, 2007 07:36 AM (Y7t14)
Posted by: annika at February 07, 2007 08:24 AM (0VTwC)
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Believe me, I thought of it as soon as I heard the story. Medved is reading my mind again.
Posted by: Casca at February 07, 2007 10:37 AM (Y7t14)
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Casca,
Uh...that was sarcasm on my part. Sorry for the subtlety of wit...
Posted by: Billy at February 07, 2007 09:16 PM (SLFj+)
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I work for one of the prime contractors and can tell you these are some of the nuttiest bastards I have ever met! Nothing that Nowak did..nothing in the slightest surprised me..but then, NASA is trying to hold onto it's GLORY DAYS....they are all pissed because I had the balls to tell them robotic missions were much less expensive.....wonder if I'll get mine!.....Frankie
Posted by: Frankie at February 08, 2007 03:13 AM (vPggd)
Rudy Is In
You may have sensed that I am a fan of Rudy Giuliani. While I haven't yet decided who I'm going to support, Rudy definitely makes the short list. And it's a very short list. I've already done the math on him, and nobody has yet debunked my theory. In fact, I'm the only one I've ever heard talking about the New York factor.
In a nutshell, my theory is this: People say Rudy is vulnerable on social issues, meaning he won't win the Red States. But people forget that he has a serious shot at winning New York, even against Hillary. And if Rudy wins NY's 31 electoral votes, he can pretty much thumb his nose at the South and still win the presidency. And I say, if he wins NY, he'll probably get NJ, and possibly PA and CT, too. Let me tell you, that's a scenario that scares the hell out of a lot of people. That's why no one's talking about it.
Now that Rudy's all but announced, you're going to hear a lot of people repeating the same mantra: "He's too liberal to win the nomination." Don't you believe it. The media wants you to believe it, because they know how formidable he really is. They've seen the polling. The "three-G"* conservatives want you to believe it too, because Rudy gives them nightmares.
But before you give in to the anti-hype, read this article in City Journal, entitled "Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative". You may not come away completely convinced, but at least you'll know he's not the antichrist, as some want you to believe.
He cleaned up New York when the rest of the world had written it off. Ask any New Yorker. Pre-Giuliani, you took your life into your hands walking in the park after dark, or just riding the subway. Broadway was a shithole. There used to be certain neighborhoods where nobody wanted to live, that are now impossible to afford. New York had a genuine Renaissance in the 1990's and it was thanks to Rudy Giuliani. New Yorkers won't forget this.
Of course Rudy led that Renaissance in the face of withering criticism from the left. He made enemies, and as his tenure was winding down, his enemies seemed to have gotten to him. The Diallo shooting didn't help, either. But then came 9/11, and people saw again that this man was a courageous, principled and born leader. Flawed yes, but that's only a reminder that he's human like all of us. Rudy's personal problems are not going to dissuade New Yorkers from supporting him. They voted overwhelmingly for Clinton too.
Don't forget also that Giuliani is an amazing speaker. He gave the best speech at the 2004 Republican Convention. His style is spontaneous, populist, and deceptively effective. While Zell Miller fired up the base and Schwarzenegger won over the pundits, Rudy's speech was the most articulate defense of the War on Terror that has ever been given to a national audience.
Giuliani has also positioned himself well, by staying out of the administration. To move forward, he will need to come up with an approach to the Iraq mess that navigates the gulf between his unequivocal support for the War and the subsequent truth that Bush and Company have fucked it all up. On that issue he may lose ground to McCain, who has also been unwavering in his belief the Iraq was the right thing to do, while at the same time he's never thought we were doing it right.
In a sense, all Republican candidates except for Hagel are hamstrung by the success or failure of the President's Surge plan. No pro-war Republican will be elected on a victory platform if victory isn't within sight. Mark my words, if the Surge fails to show progress within the next 12 months, we will have a Democratic president in 2009. I think McCain and Giuliani have the best chance of convincing independent voters to stay the course in Iraq, but ultimately I think they'd lose to a cut-and-run Democrat if we don't start winning soon.
Finally, back to Giuliani's social liberal weaknesses. To those who don't like Rudy because he's pro gay marriage, I say where have you been? Gay marriage is here. It's a reality. The only way to put that genie back in the bottle is by a Constitutional Amendment, and good luck with that one. Same goes for abortion, and I'm about as far to the right on the abortion issue as it is possible to be. Rudy does worry me about gun rights, but he made a good first step at winning my confidence two days ago when he said:
I think those are the kinds of justices I would appoint - Scalia, Alito and Roberts. If you can find anybody as good as that, you are very, very fortunate.
I'll keep watching. But as it stands now, Rudy should be the front-runner and I'm skeptical of any polls that don't have him at or near the top. His opponents in both parties will be gunning for him now. Rudy's never been shy about fighting back, so it should be a very interesting campaign whatever happens.
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He's my first choice as well. I think you make a good defense of his positives, but I'm looking forward to hearing from those on the Right who oppose him as well as those on the Left. (Straw and I have had some pretty good debates whether he did more harm than good in NYC.) Regardless, he'll be formidable. Those who write him off are fooling themselves.
So, let the debate begin...
Posted by: blu at February 05, 2007 10:57 PM (duPNB)
Posted by: Casca at February 05, 2007 10:57 PM (2gORp)
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Casca, please elaborate for those of us born in the latter part of the 20th century.
Not calling you ancient....I'm just sayin'.....
Posted by: blu at February 05, 2007 11:00 PM (duPNB)
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Unfortunately, Rudy has too many skeletons in his closet and a really crazy ex that's too willing to talk. The Dems will only be too glad to dredge it all out during a campaign, which will definitely hurt him making Rudy to not a viable candidate.
Posted by: michele at February 05, 2007 11:05 PM (vMvlg)
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Good gawd, you slithy little fuck, I don't remember Dewey. I am able to read history though. However, for those of you who are too lazy to do so. Dewey was a NY prosecutor who "cleaned up" NYC. He's most famous as the fellow in the headline held up by Truman in 1948 that read, "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN". Of course, that's not what happened.
Anni, you've been on campus too long. Rudy will have to say a lot of things to nail down the base. The party whores will be onboard early. If he hasn't got the base by September, Newt will be in the race, and will take it away from him. The lightweights notwithstanding, we've got a pretty good bench. The VP choice will be Ken Blackwell from Ohio. He's much cleaner than Osama Obama.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 12:18 AM (2gORp)
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One of the many reasons to vote for Rudy is his master smackdowns of the self-important leftist press. Douche Gregory, Terry Moran and that hideous, foul, decrepit, syphilitic snatch-breathed crone Helen Thomas are going to be smacked like pinatas!
Also, his longstanding beatdowns of that vile dike Rosie O’ Donuts made living here truly magnificent. He used to call her “pumpkin head” due to her size 12 empty, ugly squash.
Posted by: Radical Redneck at February 06, 2007 12:37 AM (UoESY)
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Casca's right; Dewey's image holding up the paper (I'm pretty sure it was the Chicago Tribune) saying that he won was premature; the votes came in for Truman late (Mayor Daley was still printing them at press time).
Newt's my guy so far; Rudy can win, but can he get the nomination?
I do remember that time, but vaguely. I remember sitting with Truman at a dinner for Jack Kennedy in Washington, D.C. in the early 60's and chatting a bit about the steel seizure cases (look 'em up, kiddies) and his feeling about the Dewey election. Also, his recognition of Israel in '48 was galactic.
He was one hell of a guy, even if he was a Democrat.
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 07:03 AM (SLFj+)
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OK, Methusala, I know you've forgotten more than I'll ever know, but it was Truman holding up the Trib. Truman was the typical thug Democrat machine politician who had greatness thrust upon him. To be kind, he didn't understand the world. He shutdown the OSS leaving us blind going into the Cold War. Failed at shaping the post-war world, and created the scenario that got us knocked on our collective asses in Korea by gutting the military to spend the "peace dividend" after WWII. Few could have done worse. That he and Marshall are lionized is a tribute to American leftist media dominance from the Depression to the Reagan Revolution.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 07:34 AM (Y7t14)
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Your trackback thingy is not working, so this is in lieu of a trackback.
I like Rudy, and won’t be horribly disappointed if he becomes our next President — I definitely prefer him to Hillary/Obama/Edwards. Nor do I think he’s too “liberal” for our Party’s nomination. In fact, I think Rudy would be a nice move back towards the center on many issues.
But I won't vote for him nor support his campaign, as I have a set-in-stone principal where I won't cast a vote for POTUS for any man or woman has not served in our country's military.
If you want the power to send our young men and women into war, you damned well better had been willing to volunteer yourself.
As a crusty old veteran, that's just how I feel about it.
Posted by: Robbie at February 06, 2007 08:45 AM (foLp3)
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I heard the Giuliani speak on the step by step process he used to clean up New York and the corrupt bureaucracy that allowed it to happen. He had the guts to clear the Mafia out of the fish market and waste hauling when everyone said he would be a dead man if he tried. It was a very impressive speech about his miraculous accomplishments.
I could support Rudy.
Posted by: Jake at February 06, 2007 08:47 AM (V6rxT)
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Damn, Casca, you are absolutely right. What was I thnking?
Posted by: shelly at February 06, 2007 09:43 AM (SLFj+)
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Who's this Robbie guy? I like the way he thinks. I was in the library last night, and saw a chicklette in blue coveralls wearing the rank of a Coast Guard Lt. Do they count? Not in my book. The inner Marine always takes over. I almost asked her WTF she was doing "in the ville" in a work uniform. But I come from the generation when the avaitors weren't allowed to wear their flightsuits through the gate.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 10:07 AM (Y7t14)
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"Dewey was a NY prosecutor who "cleaned up" NYC. He's most famous as the fellow in the headline held up by Truman in 1948 that read, "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN". "
C'mon Casca. I expected something better than that - everybody has seen that fucking photo and knows the eventual outcome. BFD. I thought there was something in Dewey's political philosophy that you remember - having lived through it and all - that reminded you of Rudy. Instead, I get the usual profane, though humorous, bromide that shows you can use Wikipedia.
BTW, Newt? Really?! Any of you fucking dopes who think Newt has a snow ball's chance in hell of getting the nomination or winning really need to lay off the crack pipe. Newt is an opp researchers dream, whose negatives rival Hillary's. The man loves hearing himself talk and has left a paper/video trail that leaves him no chance at being anything but a talking head. Even suggesting Newt shows absolutely no understanding of modern day politics.
I love watching Newt on TV. He's smart and interesting. But he has zero chance of being President.
Right now, Rudy is the best choice because the only real alternatives are an egotistical old crank, who thinks the 1st amend is optional or an articulate Mormon, who seems to have a penchant for being on both sides of issues.
Posted by: blu at February 06, 2007 10:59 AM (duPNB)
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And here we have a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 12:32 PM (Y7t14)
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i should do a post with one line summaries of the two dozen or so candidates in the ring as of today.
my line on Newt would be something like: i like him, but forget it.
Posted by: annika at February 06, 2007 01:35 PM (zAOEU)
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I didn't think you could make a case for him, Casca.
Plagerizing famous quotes is funny though. Stick to that - cuz you are pretty funny...really - and leave the political analysis to the smart people.
Maybe, you can be the site Jester.
Anni, good take on Newt.
Posted by: blu at February 06, 2007 02:58 PM (duPNB)
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My but you're petulant today. Ah, but that's you everyday. My reason for not responding to your screed is that only a fool argues with a jackass. This you do daily. I shall not partake.
I'm sure that you're very smot, at least compared to the others on the short bus, but attribution isn't required when quoting Shakespeare in this instance, ya stupid fuck. Now educate me some more.
Posted by: Casca at February 06, 2007 03:49 PM (2gORp)
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I can't help it...it's too easy. I don't mind ya taking cheap shots at Straw and Will, but I'm not your bitch so no freebies, Grandpa. You get friskie with me, I beat you down just like the Lefties. Besides, I just want you to make a case for your opinion. I don't mind having my mind changed by good thinking. Wasn'tlooking for an argument -just a friendly exchange of ideas.
If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
Posted by: blu at February 06, 2007 04:02 PM (duPNB)
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Blu,
Maybe tomorrow I will find time to laugh about Rudy. Right now I am finishing up a late night and delivering a Prada display to Macy's for a 9pm til 6am set-up. He is not, as I have said before, presidential material. Haivng the UN nearby does not give him foreign policy cred. From afar much about him may be appealing to you law and order types who munch on the constitution when the going gets tough, and his couple of heartfelt moments at ground zero were, like anytime a polition is moved to being real, glimses of a part of his character that he never shows and actually seems to abhor in himself.
Later.
Posted by: strawman at February 06, 2007 06:11 PM (9ySL4)
Cold Blast Pushes Global Warming Off The Front Page
The words "Global" and "Warming" were conspicuously absent from tonight's NBC Nightly News, I'm here to tell you.
The good news, if there is any, about what's being called the Midwest Cold Blast, or alternately, the Cold Snap, is that we won't be lectured about Global Warming again for at least another week.
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Posted by: John Hughes at February 05, 2007 10:19 PM (gdtKg)
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There continue to be news articles about Global Warming, so I don't see your connection. Only the lowest IQs would think a cold snap might somehow reduce the likelihood of continued GW. But this kind of response is what you were looking for, eh cheri? Any comments on Chirac's latest drive?
Posted by: will at February 06, 2007 10:05 AM (GzvlQ)
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Ya know, if there could be a three way prez ticket, and the spiritual leader of Tibet joined the two you mentioned, we could see bumper stickers like;
Obama Biden Lama
Posted by: will at February 03, 2007 05:26 AM (h7Ciu)
Long Live The Nanny State
I live in the Soviet Union.
For the record, I stopped using incandescent bulbs years ago. In my case, the free market worked. But what about photographers, who can't use flourescent bulbs? Does every single thing in the universe need to be legislated?
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This gets back to the subject of global warming, as well as what kind of electricity generation facilities to avoid constructing (i.e., coal). Could be a long comment thread...
There is a 'free market' in the sense that you could live in other states that are more in line with your particular mix of principles. I don't see massive changes in the way California does business wrt favoring conservative Republican agenda items. Which states have the stances that conform to your ideal principle set? Texas, Nevada, Idaho, ....?
Posted by: will at February 01, 2007 07:43 AM (GzvlQ)
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Yes, she could always move, but that avoids the original question: does every single thing have to be legislated?
If these new bulbs were so cheap and minimized polution so much, then the average consumer would eventually choose to purchase that bulb. (I thought Cali was so "pro-choice.") Why does it have to come down by fiat from the state capital?
Posted by: Mark at February 01, 2007 08:51 AM (2MrBP)
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When you fuck with the foundations of democracy, this is what you end up with. SCOTUS shredded the constitution for the last half of the 20th Century, and now we have no constitutional protection from any type of nitwittery. And the fucktards bleat about the Patriot Act.
Posted by: Casca at February 01, 2007 09:11 AM (Y7t14)
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I don't necessarily see the right to pollute without bounds as one of the foundations of democracy. There are a number of energy efficiency standards that are Federal and State law, so at least a smattering of precedence has been set.
Yes, we could argue whether this is right or not, but does anyone see California reversing direction dramatically towards a conservative republican agenda? Others might, I don't. So one has the choice to stay and beat their head on a wall, or to go where one's own reside and realize their utopia. On the same vein (at the extreme other end of the spectrum), those who like communism can go to Cuba or North Korea.
Posted by: will at February 01, 2007 09:21 AM (GzvlQ)
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The decision about whether to live in a 4000 sq ft house or a 20000 sq ft house has far more impact on energy use than does the decision to use CFL or incandescent lightbulbs. So does the decision to set the summer thermostat at 68 degrees instead of 75 degrees, or to live 40 miles from work instead of 1 mile from work. Does Levine want to legislate these things as well?
The first instinct of modern bureaucratic liberalism, in virtually every situation, seem to be to call for the police.
Posted by: david foster at February 01, 2007 09:30 AM (/Z304)
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Does every single thing have to be legislated is a pretty silly statement and leads to a discussion about something other than the real topic which is, I think, is the ways electricity should be conserved.
If you think the savings are significant (undeniable) in terms of watts and that the CO2 is significant(some still deny) to produce those watts and that the public is too phlegmatic or cheap to buy (or simply screw them in if they are being given away)the energy saving bulbs then what is the problem of the legislature imposing insentives, rules and regulations? Does the ocean have to breach the sea walls of the Hudson river for you think the gov should act?
I wouldn't worry about photographers and I don't think a black market in incandescent bulbs will develop either.
Oh, Mark, tell me about the free market in electricity and how that has benefitted the consumer.
Posted by: strawman at February 01, 2007 09:46 AM (9ySL4)
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Straw,
It is not up to capitalists to "prove" the free market works: We've already done that - the debate is over. You guys lost (after killing a few hundred million.) But perhaps you missed the last century of economic and intellectual history. You socialist neanderthals need to demonstrate how centralizing the means of production improves the lives of a country's citizens.
BTW, Straw, you freedom lover you, how soon will it be before your hero, Mr. Chavez, starts killing his political opponents? You'll be cheering him on no doubt. (We know how much you like to celebrate the deaths of those who support freedom.)
Will, as usual, you've managed to write a lot and say absolutely nothing of value. I'm sure, though, that you were absolutely smitten by your own writing. Smug, arrogant liberals - people like you - think the rest of us are too stupid to make our own decisions. Most of the people on this site love freedom, democracy, and, more importantly, capitalism, and believe citizens are perfectly able to make their own choices. When you first read The Republic, Will, I'm willing to bet you thought you'd make an amazing philosopher-king. I doubt the cave analogy had any impact on you.
Posted by: blu at February 01, 2007 11:33 AM (duPNB)
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Blu wrote:
> Will, as usual, you've managed to write a lot and say absolutely nothing of value. I'm sure, though, that you were absolutely smitten by your own writing. Smug, arrogant liberals - people like you
Blu, too frequently lately you've gone from debating the points to attacking the messenger. That may sometimes work in court or with some blog readerships, but that points to the realization that you have no real contribution or response to the subject at hand.
You label me as a liberal, but I espouse many points that conservatives (and moderate) republicans espouse as well. I also choose those points that I agree with liberals on. You choose to use one brush to paint me, and I'm afraid you continue to push the same false dichotomy over and over. Is Bush a liberal? Are Republican Senators and Congressmen calling for renewable energy programs and other measures to reduce our dependence on foreign oil liberal? Are energy efficiency standards inherently liberal? All this light bulb regulation really represents is an energy efficiency standard, nothing else.
> The decision about whether to live in a 4000 sq ft house or a 20000 sq ft house has far more impact on energy use than does the decision to use CFL or incandescent lightbulbs.
Granted, but a 20,000 sf house full of incandescants will use much more energy than a the same size house full of CFL, so there is still energy savings realized.
> So does the decision to set the summer thermostat at 68 degrees instead of 75 degrees,
During the oil crisis, Americans were instructed to set their heat at 65F and their A/C at 80F. California is still at threat from rolling blackouts, so they are taking measures to reduce risk to the population. I realize libertarians would prefer that everyone do that on their own, but conserving in such a manner runs headon into Jevons paradox.
> or to live 40 miles from work instead of 1 mile from work.
Municipalities have the right to zone according to comprehensive planning. Libertarians also seem to despise this, though would recoil from the thought of a radioactive (or otherwise) dumpsite moving in nextdoor. Sprawl is an unfortunate consequence of market based land use 'planning'. Transportation planning that enables sprawl is just as bad, as witnessed by the deals that Hastert rigged to benefit from a land speculation he arranged to be serviced by a new highway.
Posted by: will at February 01, 2007 12:22 PM (GzvlQ)
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Blu,
Saying the debate is over does not end the discussion. Nor does the failure of the Soviet Union end the discussion of whether people can live better lives under Capitalism or some variant. To call American capitalism the be all and end all of what humnas should aspire to is childish. As is forcasting what I will think about the murders Hugo Chavez may commit in the future or any of the dozens of Straw men you insert into my mouth. (And no,RR that is not an admission that I can suck myself off. I saw the tape of how well you do it but it has not prompted me to hire a trainer to achieve a more limber back.)
Blu, if you want to takl about something I said rather than something you think I believe drop me a line. Not grieving for a fellow that died as a mercenary in Iraq does not mean I don't love freedom is again, selfserving drivel. To attribute to me a love of Stalin and his methods is, well I hate to be repetative, the drivel of a man who wishes to avoid the real issues and fight about the ones not on the table.
A paragraph I wrote a few weeks ago directed toward you was ignored. The one about the incredible diversity of stupid, unproven, completely false, hurtful and just plain dumb, beliefs held most Americans and probably Europeans as well. I wish you would talk about that in the context of your confidence that American consumers are to be relied upon to act in their best intersts as well as the best interests of the society.
Posted by: strawman at February 01, 2007 12:54 PM (9ySL4)
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Straw, the energy crisis in California was not due to deregulation but to price controls. When a company cannot pass on its costs to consumers, a shortage will result. (And it did.)
This is basic economics, an area in which most liberals are painfully illiterate.
Posted by: Mark at February 01, 2007 02:22 PM (2MrBP)
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There was an extensive discussion of CFLs over at Asymmetrical Information (www.janegalt.net) a couple of weeks ago. Lots of people just don't like the light from these things (and there are big differences in light quality among manufacturers, too)
Do liberals really want to establish such tight controls over people that a minor personal preference like light quality can't even be exercised?
Note that in today's market environment, manufacturers are strongly incentivized to improve the light quality of these things. If it were edicted that everyone *must* by CFLs, then the incentive goes away.
To which I guess the response of liberals would probably be another government edict, ordering the companies to improve the light quality.
Posted by: david foster at February 01, 2007 02:23 PM (/Z304)
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"about the murders Hugo Chavez may commit in the future"
Oh, don't worry, Straw, your hero will start killing soon. (He wants to carry on Castro's vision of the Good State, which, of course, means killing your opponents. Gotta break a few eggs and all that jazz.) When myself and others predicated some time ago that Chavez would seek a dictatorship, I was 100% confident in my prediction. We now know that is exactly what he is doing. I am equally confident in this prediction. As Hayek taught us decades ago, communism inevitably leads to totalitarianism and all its by-products. You people refuse to learn from history. Why is that, Straw? Ignorance or just a childish stubborness?
p.s. Hey Will...you really want to talk about a real contribution? Really? You? Sir, you jabber, and copy, and paste but rarely enlighten. In this particular case, you didn't even address Annie's point, which comes down to one's fundamental beliefs about the relationship between a citizen and his government. I'd love - just once - to see you tackle of larger philosophical issue without resorting to your typical cut and paste from whatever source you are plagerizing on a particular day.
Posted by: blu at February 01, 2007 02:38 PM (duPNB)
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Mark,
Would you care to introduce us to the value of Enron's contribution to the power shortage in CA.
WOuld you care to enlighten me as to how, regardless of high the cost of a barrel of oil became, (and presumed margins should have dropped and consumption fallen off as the price increased to drivers) Exon has managed to have its best year ever in 2006 topping its previous best year ever in 2005?
Free markets are a myth Mark. Did you have a choice as to what gas to buy during the run up in prices prior to the election and then the price down turn as oil companies tried to take high gas prices off the table as a Democratic talking point? Was there ever more than a 3cent/gal spread available to you? You pray to the god of Free markets without ever looking at the market place.
I read the other day where surgical pin and screw companies give shares of their companies to orthopedic surgeons so that they specify their products. A bag on stainless nuts, bolts, plates etc for a disk fusing costs $7900.00 for less half a pound of Stainless steel. ANd what does the company do? Nothing but buy the products from an OEM supplier and mark it up. The whole business model is based on "owning" the surgeons. What if the govt. didn't force the doctors to disclose their involvement with the mfgr of the hardware? Something that was just this year put into effect.
Another example of a free markets, eh, Mark? Oh, wait, I forgot your mantra, "just go to another doctor if you don't like the price" leave the fellow that has been treating you for 5 years, has cadged your confidence and your x-rays. Just like that you should start talking price and if he refuses go to a stranger and start negotiating with him about your back surgery. Oh, I forgot, you gotta tell me who is wheeling you around in your hospital bed to these doctors and pumping your morphine drip.
Yup, that's what I call free markets regulating pricing. Markets are closed and collusion is the norm and every time the govt. makes noise about opening things up the lobbyists hit the hill and the republicans stick out their paws and roll on their backs. Dem as well just not with such predictability or in such numbers.
Posted by: strawman at February 01, 2007 05:26 PM (9ySL4)
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Guys, just ignore the fucktard.
He'll get tired of talking to himself and just go away.
You can lead a horse's ass to logic but you can't make him think.
Posted by: shelly at February 01, 2007 09:50 PM (SLFj+)
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blu wrote:
> Sir, you jabber, and copy, and paste but rarely enlighten.
Still unable to debate the issue at hand, blu is left with only an ad hominem attack. If the reader looks at my previous message, they will see that there are no instances of copy and paste. If I debate a scientific point, I will certainly reference sources, instead of just spouting off the top of my head as blu believes people should do. This wasn't a scientific point this time, so I addressed the issue from an energy perspective related to rolling blackouts and pollution. Blu has yet to even mention these subjects, much less establish a position.
blu, if you want to debate the topic, then do so. If you have no defensible position, grasping at ad hominem only reflects badly on you.
If you believe that Governments have absolutely no right to regulate, have fun at a city or suburb with no stoplights, stop signs, line markings on streets, or municipal streets, for that matter. I'm waiting for a Libertarian Utopia to appear somewhere; it would be quite an amusing spectacle. Oh, wait, there have been some Freemen compounds...
Posted by: will at February 02, 2007 05:27 AM (GzvlQ)
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Will,
See Shelley's comments above in reference to another lunatic - to be fair, though, Straw is an infinitely more interesting and original lunatic. And, unlike you, I seriously doubt he considers himself a demigod or an authority on all things/
You see Will, Shelley's comments reflect how most people here deal with you. I may start testing his theory. Still, it's really fun watching your ego go into high gear. It'd be a fun exercise to find all the posts in which you've commented and then see how often you insist on getting the last word. Were you an only child, Will? Or maybe you got your ass kicked a lot growing up and found in the internet the one place you could go and actually get the last word without getting pounded into submission?
Ahhh, who knows? Who cares really? Let's just see if you can manage not to respond.....for once.
I'm betting not. The hubris runs deep in this one...
Posted by: blu at February 02, 2007 08:55 AM (duPNB)
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As expected, blu refuses to debate the issue and continues ad nausem his ad hominem. Come back, blu, when you have the fortitude to defend your beliefs with more than just hot air and avoidance.
And for your (sadly lacking pop psychologist) information, I am a middle child and was big for my age growing up.
> Let's just see if you can manage not to respond
A humorous but inherently meaningless line in the sand.
> I seriously doubt he considers himself a demigod or an authority on all things
And you show humility and peer-respect with your opinions you choose to spout off the top of your mind? Gawd, what gall you have!
> Straw is an infinitely more interesting and original lunatic
Then why do you even bother responding? Let's see if you are conflicted enough to respond to this. I'm betting not. The hubris runs deep in this one...
Posted by: will at February 02, 2007 10:11 AM (GzvlQ)
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Will,
Blu is too busy chasing visions of Communist dictators dancing around in his paranoid fantasies. Blu, did you have a grandparent in the Gulags? Or aristicratic St Petersberg relatives that lost their palace and serfs? He can't get over the fact that Hugo Chavez may become the Castro of Ven., (the poor will get health care, education, pre-natal care, and living wages) and kill a few people in the process yet Blu's agony over GB killing 100,000 in Iraq to institute America's capitalistic tyranny is just fine.
Posted by: strawman at February 02, 2007 12:14 PM (9ySL4)
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Straw,
You never let me down. Sure, you're a raving lunatic and a lover of totalitarianism, but at least you are amusing and not afraid to admit who you are.
Rock on, Comrade!!!
Posted by: blu at February 02, 2007 12:36 PM (j8oa6)
20STRAWMAN IS RIGHT!C(R)APITALISM SUCKS!
the only way you are going to get peace is to tear apart the military industrial complex. Capitalism has to go! All social services must be paid for and provided by the government, free for everyone. That includes schools, health care, food, clothing, housing and ALL liesure. We need to stop building and start eliminating suburbs, recliam the once pristine land, and start building free apartment complexes in the cities. We demand the end of private restaurants, and demand public cafeterias NOT run by corporations. We need to stop the spread of shopping malls, and start giving out standard and uniform clothing for free for everyone. Corporations and private industry are evil! They corrupt everything. SOCIALISM RULES!SOCIALISM OR DEATH!
Posted by: true patriot at February 02, 2007 10:07 PM (pITRL)
Posted by: shelly at February 02, 2007 11:17 PM (SLFj+)
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Actually, many of the lifestyle changes TP mentions will likely come to pass for reasons other than changes in style of government;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4IwtAQzrfiw
Matthew Simmons is Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Simmons &
Company International, a specialized energy investment banking firm. The
firm has completed approximately 600 investment banking projects for its
worldwide energy clients at a combined dollar value in excess of $65
billion.
Following the 1973 Oil Shock, Simmons decided to create a Houston-based
firm to concentrate on providing highest quality investment banking
advice to the worldwide oil service industry. Over time, the
specialization expanded into investment banking covering all aspects of
the global energy industry.
Today the firm has approximately 145 employees and enjoys a leading role
as one of the largest energy investment banking groups in the world. Its
offices are in Houston, Texas; London, England; Boston, Massachusetts
and Aberdeen, Scotland.
Mr. Simmons also serves on the Board of DeanÂ’s Advisors of Harvard
Business School and is a past President of the Harvard Business School
Alumni Association and a former member of the Visiting Committee of
Harvard Business School. He is a member of the Council on Foreign
Relations and The Atlantic Council of the United States.
Mr. SimmonsÂ’ recently published book "Twilight in the Desert: The Coming
Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy" has been listed on the Wall
Street JournalÂ’s best-seller list. He has also published numerous energy
papers for industry journals and is a frequent speaker at government
forums, energy symposiums and in board rooms of many leading energy
companies around the world.
Posted by: will at February 03, 2007 05:21 AM (h7Ciu)
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Me thinks TP is joking. In fact I'm sure. Blu could have done no worse attempting the paradoxical approach. It is an approach to an argument but it is lame and only serves to reinforce why Strawman is my nome de blog. NOBODY with an IQ as low as Shelly's could believe that Socialism of the ilk described by TP is what anybody wants. However,a health care system that eliminates care for profit might be something to look fwd to and unisex one-piece raw linen jump suits might be nice but all the rest is just silly.
Posted by: strawman at February 03, 2007 12:09 PM (9ySL4)
Posted by: Casca at February 03, 2007 08:21 PM (2gORp)
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If it does, and "All your babes are us" as well, count me in...
But, only if we can get rid of all the bleeding pinko fucktards that haunt our intelligent exchange of ideas and thoughts.
Posted by: shelly at February 03, 2007 09:51 PM (SLFj+)
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Once I read "free markets are a myth" I stopped reading. Anyone who makes such a claim is just unreachable, and life is too short to spend time educating people on the basics.
Posted by: Mark at February 03, 2007 09:52 PM (i5Khe)
27What a shock - powers to be make sure the facist red state team wins the "Super" Bowl!
Posted by: true patriot at February 05, 2007 10:01 AM (yIFzt)
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Mark,
For every working "free market" you can show me, and I don't doubt there are many, I'll show you one that is either gov't regulated or gov't protected with subsidies or price controls or is completely influenced by price fixing, cronyism, or just general monopolistic practices that the FTC has allowed i.e. ownership of TV stations and radio stations and news papers in one market.
Shelly the last important, intelligent conversation you had was a silent, internal dialogue that involved a pair of lactating nipples staring you in the face. Right, Left, Right, Left, better go Right, it looks a little bigger. Set you for life.
Posted by: strawman at February 05, 2007 10:28 AM (9ySL4)
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"FTC has allowed i.e. ownership of TV stations and radio stations and news papers in one market."
Yeah, I really feel like I have hardly any media choices availabe to me. PUUUUH-LEEESE. C'mon, Straw. That the best ya got?
Posted by: blu at February 05, 2007 11:16 PM (duPNB)
Posted by: Radical Redneck at February 06, 2007 12:22 AM (UoESY)
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Blu,
We don't use people like you as examples for how one might cicumvent the strangle hold on information that the MSM has in dozens of markets. Tha't a compliment, fella. Most Americans, angel loving, god frearing, radiation adverse, spoon bending believers don't look past the simple sources. Local news, local paper and the radio. Rupert may own every one that many Americans ever see. This is not a recipe for a cooking up a good thoughtfull well informed voting public. Why did 60-70 % of American's believe that Iraq had a hand in 911? Becasuse the MSM had the LSS Chainey saying it everyday without a rebutal. So Blu, I beg to differ: The control of the media is very imoportant and a very good example of how a democracy like ours protects itself from close examination and by degree embraces totalitarianism as a survival tool.
Posted by: strawman at February 06, 2007 08:39 AM (9ySL4)
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How does he get women exactly? Cuz it sure ain't his charm!
Posted by: Joules at January 31, 2007 01:43 PM (u4CYb)
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I love the blog that you have. I was wondering if you would link my blog to yours and in return I would do the same for your blog. If you want to, my site name is American Legends and the URL is:
http://www.americanlegends.blogspot.com
If you want to do this just go to my blog and in one of the comments just write your blog name and the URL and I will add it to my site.
Thanks,
Mark
Posted by: J. Mark English at January 31, 2007 05:22 PM (+OxYx)
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As you can tell, things are a bit strange here. It's a communal thing Mark. I'm in charge of making the numbers work. How much cash do you have? If you send me your bank account number, I can help you double that overnight.
Posted by: Casca at January 31, 2007 08:43 PM (2gORp)
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i love that movie. i looked for eddie murphy's "kill my landlord" poem on youtube, but it looks like no one's uploaded it. that would have been a nice companion to flyguy.
Posted by: annika at February 02, 2007 07:16 PM (JBltT)
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Looks like one of the professors I had in law school.
Posted by: Mark at February 03, 2007 09:54 PM (i5Khe)
Google TV Is No Hoax
I got Google TV, and they're paying me 40 large just to watch it.
Here's a screencap:
The only program available is some weird show with two aliens stacking boxes. It hurts my eyes a little, but it is kind of addicting. And anyways who cares, I'm getting paid 40 big ones to watch.
[I realize that by combining two extremely obscure references in the same post, the population of readers who will get it is basically nil.]
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I think it must be finals time; Annie seems to have lost it again.
P.S. He said "Forty large", not "Forty Big Ones"; in the venacular, that means $40,000, not the $40.00 he's being paid.
This entire video looks like it was made by someone on acid; I didn't think they used hallogens anymore.
Or maybe it was just a third year law student being bored to death...
Posted by: shelly at January 30, 2007 02:27 AM (SLFj+)
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I just watched the Mark Ericson videos; there must be thousands of geeks pulling their hair out trying to get that little TV antenna.
Only Annie could find this stuff.
Is that why we check this blog?
Back to the books, Annie.
Posted by: shelly at January 30, 2007 02:37 AM (SLFj+)
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"halogens?" I never touch the stuff. Flourescents are my bulb of choice.
Posted by: annika at January 30, 2007 07:39 AM (9EnDq)
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LMAO!
I didn't even get the reference at first, but I had a feeling that was "Carl-speak" in your post. I hadn't seen that episode before, until today.
Posted by: reagan80 at January 30, 2007 09:21 AM (qjCPY)
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Two questions: Don't you people feel guilty for wasting time watching stuff like this? It's not even funny, or good. It's just a bunch of pothead rambling.
What am I going to do with forty Orlocks?
Posted by: Casca at January 30, 2007 12:20 PM (2gORp)
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"Don't you people feel guilty for wasting time watching stuff like this?"
Nope, not me. Each episode is less than 15 minutes long. That's a reasonable price to pay for bizarre humor.
However, watching 5 minutes of this made me feel a deep sense of shame and regret.
Posted by: reagan80 at January 30, 2007 01:42 PM (qjCPY)
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Reagan 80, thanks to you, I had to click that link and click "PLAY" to watch that hideous monstrosity posing as parody.
I have to wash my eyes now.
Posted by: Mark at January 30, 2007 04:25 PM (xqjVb)
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The other day I was walking my dog in Santa Monica and a homeless dude said "hello, dog."
I swear to God he sounded Just Like Carl.
Probably wasn't him, though. I can't imagine Carl is too fond of dogs after the Handbanana fiasco.
Posted by: The Law Fairy at January 30, 2007 05:54 PM (XUsiG)
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Are you all 3rd year law students?
At least Annie has an excuse for being balmy.
Posted by: shelly at January 30, 2007 06:02 PM (SLFj+)
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Shelly, I'm not but I used to be.
Anyway, spend enough time in a law firm and you'll find that ATHF can at times be less bizarre than real life. I'll admit the most recent season seems trippier than the others though...
Posted by: The Law Fairy at January 30, 2007 06:07 PM (XUsiG)
Posted by: annika at January 31, 2007 11:16 PM (Q3+V0)
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You my dear have an uncanny sense of timing. I told you these fuckers were stoned. Do you think they told the cops to... "just tilt your head back"?
Posted by: Casca at February 01, 2007 12:06 AM (2gORp)
Posted by: Jim Treacher at February 01, 2007 12:20 AM (3ZNma)
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"All Your Base Are Belong to Err
I officially proclaim myself hipper than Boston's police force.
"I want my name to be Spaghetti"
Posted by The Law Fairy on Jan. 31, 2007"
Damn, I was sure it was "All your BABES belong to us".
At that point, I was ready to enlist with them...
Posted by: shelly at February 01, 2007 09:58 PM (SLFj+)
Hillary Said
While campaigning in Iowa today, Hillary said:
The president has said [the Iraq War] is going to be left to his successor. . . . I think it's the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it. . . . This was his decision to go to war, he went with an ill-conceived plan, an incompetently executed strategy and we should expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office.
It sounds as though she doesn't feel she's up to the task. One might add that Bush should resent her husband for having left Osama Bin Laden to deal with.
But in a way, I do agree with Hillary's statement, at least as far as the poorly executed strategy goes. We should expect President Bush to extricate our country from the Iraq War before he leaves office. My only qualification is that we should leave through the "victory" door, not the "abandonment" door the Democrats keep pushing us towards.
Finally, despite all the talk about the new "Rules of Engagement," I'm sick and tired of hearing about shit like this. Keep your ears open for more stories about the ROE's and whether or not they really have changed (I'm skeptical). That will tell you whether our leaders are serious about winning or whether they're just playing out the clock for Hillary.
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Annika,
I think it must be very upsetting for a GI to be mortared and to hear that his ability to retaliate is hamstung by ROE. I wonder however about the leap he makes to "if we really wanted to we could win this pretty quick" from aome difuse and possibly apocraphal storise about our forces being held back because of collateral damage.
Just an observation.
I think, Annie the Victory Door is nowhere to be found. You can not kill the opposition becasuse it is pervasive and the Iraqi army will never stand up.
Posted by: strawman at January 28, 2007 05:15 PM (9ySL4)
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STFU and begone fucktard. It's a subject you know NOTHING about.
It is unforgiveable that we're not firing counter battery fire on these mortar harrassment attacks. Then again, I've seen some predator video of us stalking these guys, and whacking them, which is the delicate way to do it.
Posted by: Casca at January 28, 2007 11:47 PM (2gORp)
Posted by: The Truth at January 29, 2007 12:11 AM (0cQsl)
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I wonder if the 250 insurgents that were stalked and sent to Allah yesterday know that we aren't fighting back.
Perhaps the unthinking assholes who occasionally frequent this blog can explain to them that we don't know what we are doing.
The little fucker in black is now suing for peace; I hope he meets it at the end of a small Tomahawk.
Posted by: shelly at January 29, 2007 03:31 AM (SLFj+)
Posted by: Casca at January 29, 2007 07:50 AM (Y7t14)
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Perfect example of why these ROEs are stupid. When we were in Somalia we were there with the French Foreign Legion. They would do their patrols, we would do ours. People would throw rocks and take pot shots at you while you were on patrol. The Legion got sick of this and for around a week they patrolled with loud speakers saying that if it kept up they were going to fire back. The next week a crowd of about 200 threw rocks and popped of some rounds, the Legion patrol opened up on the entire crowd with a machine gun mounted on a vehicle. I have no idea how many they killed but as far as I know no one ever threw rocks at a Legion patrol after that.
Due to our ROEs people still took pot shots at our patrols and threw rocks at us.
Our Sgt liked the Legion so much from what he observed he joined when he got out of the Corps. I often wonder whatever became of him and if he was happy with his decision but that is beside the point.
Being hamstrung by stupid ROEs is exactly what I hated so much about the little brush fire wars under Clinton and I think it's stupid we persist with them during the Bush administration as well.
Posted by: Andy at January 29, 2007 08:30 AM (zGJwm)
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What if FDR had not been able to run for a 4th term in 1944? Would Dewey had said "The war is going to be left to his successor, and I really resent it"?
Hillary Clinton has the soul of a petulant child.
Posted by: david foster at January 29, 2007 08:59 AM (/Z304)
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Interesting that the "new" strategy has not been publicized. Probably for a very good reason. I think that Petraeus has his marchng orders and that they read something like "Do what it takes to put down the insurgency". He wrote the book, remember.
So far, they have announced that there are no safe places to hide; as soon as they take out a couple of mosques, the militias will disappear, as they have no place to hide except to lay down their arms and try to wait until we are gone.
Then we will have a chance to stand up a real force that can keep them at home.
But they need to kill that little fucker in black.
Posted by: shelly at January 29, 2007 08:59 AM (SLFj+)
Posted by: MarkD at January 29, 2007 01:08 PM (5vbH6)
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Are you kidding? A black belt dominatrix like her not wear black?
But, that's not the little fucker I was talking about. He's in Baghdad or Sadr City or Fallujah.
If we level them all, we're bound to get him.
Posted by: shelly at January 29, 2007 02:52 PM (SLFj+)
11Bridge on the River Kwai is one of my all time favorite movies. Leave out the David Lean direction, the story is a classic, Hamlet in WWII Burma. It's all summed up in the question to the young Canadian Lt Joyce, "Can you kill a man with a knife?" Joyce was unsure. It was the wrong answer, but they didn't have a lot of personnel options.
Ultimately, it's a story of the struggle between romanticism, and realism. The Colonel willing to die for the ideals of soldierly virtue, and Holden willing to do anything to survive, including digging graves so he could rob the dead. You know at the end, that he'll do what needs to be done. He'll swim the river, and use the knife. Even the romantic ultimately comes to the point where he has to deal with reality; the Colonel's dying realization, "My God, what have I done?", as he falls upon the hellbox, destroying his creation.
We live in a society where the romantics are in full rut, since they perceive no consequence for their madness. The rest of us have to be prepared to use the knife.
Posted by: Casca at January 30, 2007 12:39 PM (2gORp)
The Second Annual AJFF
It doesn't seem like a year since I completed the First Annual Annika's Journal Film Festival, but it has been. If you recall, last year the honoree was Oscar winner Goldie Hawn, who has yet to send me a thank you note. I had a lot of fun watching and writing about those movies, even if I only got three comments the whole month.
I racked my brain to figure out whom to honor during this year's festival. It's quite an investment of my time: ordering the movies on Netflix, setting up my archaic screen capture procedure (don't ask, it involves lots of cable, 3½ inch floppies, my early '90's crappy laptop, and lots of running back and forth), finding and editing the pictures and then figuring out what to say about each movie.
Under consideration were fellow blonde favorites Steve McQueen and Ryan O'Neal. However, since the Oscars inspired this whole boondoggle in the first place, I decided that I should limit my choices to Oscar winners. I also wanted to pick someone whom I'm not that familiar with, because I really had a lot of fun discovering new movies during last year's Goldie Hawn event.
I reviewed eight movies last year, and so I've picked eight again for this year. That's two a week, if I want to get it done before the Oscars on February 25th; a tall order so if any of you want to help me out, let me know.
And this year's Second Annual Annika's Journal Film Festival honoree is: Elizabeth Taylor, the Sixties movies.
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You know, Joe Don Baker's birthday is in about two-and-a-half weeks.
Posted by: Victor at January 28, 2007 06:18 PM (l+W8Z)
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You've surprised me again, Anni. I thought you might pick someone like Liv Ullman (who, I just found out, grew up in Trondheim, home of Amundsen) or Max von Sydow. I'm afraid I've only seen Liz in Virginia Woolf, Sandpiper, Dr. Faustus, Cleopatra, and perhaps the Taming of the Shrew. Looking forward to your writeups.
Posted by: will at January 29, 2007 01:16 PM (GzvlQ)
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i just saw max von sydow in Hannah & Her Sisters the other night.
Posted by: annika at January 29, 2007 03:22 PM (zAOEU)
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Elizabeth Taylor?! Good Gawd!!!
But why only the 60's movies? What about National Velvet and that movie with all them redheads? She was quite good as a teenage actress.
Personally, I'd like to see an Annika Film Festival series on, say, Jody Foster, Marlon Brando, Michael Caine, Dustin Hoffman or Sissy Spacek. Fascinating canons, all.
Maybe I'll stop complaining and just do a film festival of my own.
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Naaah.
Posted by: Tuning Spork at January 29, 2007 08:14 PM (852fh)
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I watched Hannah and Her Sisters for the first time, last week too. What a fabulous soundtrack. It caused me to go out and buy some Bobby Short CD's.
Posted by: Casca at January 31, 2007 10:17 PM (2gORp)
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Annie:
Yo can file this one under the category of "Who gives a rat's ass?".
Posted by: shelly at January 27, 2007 09:18 AM (SLFj+)
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Annika...
For the record, I give a rat's ass. Especially that one over there by my garbage cans. Where would you like me to send it?
Posted by: Billy at January 27, 2007 10:11 AM (SLFj+)
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on the other hand, some people do not ever look bad, no matter how old they get. Loyd Bridges just looked like a grayer version of himself up until he died.
Sam Neil looks more handsome and distinguished as he ages, phukin bastard.
Posted by: kyle8 at January 27, 2007 03:18 PM (TXleH)
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This made me laugh. I like to believe that I don't care about celebrities and their tons o'money and looks but I guess today proves to me that I care a little because it was so much fun to see them looking not so good.
Posted by: Joules at January 27, 2007 04:58 PM (u4CYb)
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The real question is... who can still get a stiffy?
Posted by: Casca at January 27, 2007 08:02 PM (2gORp)
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Casca, thanks to medical science, they all can, and thanks to money, they all can have beautiful young women. phukin bastards.
Posted by: kyle8 at January 28, 2007 06:08 AM (RMXSn)
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I doubt that it's the same thing. Who wants to go out like Nelson Rockefeller? Well, probably all of us. Doris Kearns Goodwin loved to tell the story of him dying with his young whorelet Flagrante delicto, inflated pneumatic dick and all. I've always thought of her plageristic fall as God's humor, hoisted on her own petard. I want to go out with a bottle of single malt in one hand, and my Colt 45 Model 1911 in the other, having just offed a member of the US Senate from California.
Posted by: Casca at January 28, 2007 10:48 AM (2gORp)
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Pete Wilson?
My employer's firewall won't let me get to the site. Just as well.
Posted by: Ontario Emperor at February 01, 2007 02:07 PM (0Rrlw)
The United States is the world's most unfriendly country for international travellers, a survey suggests.
The global survey showed the US was ranked "the worst" because of rude immigration officials and long delays in processing visas.
More than half of the travellers surveyed said US immigration officials were rude and two-thirds said they feared they would be detained on arriving in the US for a simple mistake in their paper work or for saying the wrong thing to an immigration official.
Twice the percentage of travellers nominated the US as unfriendly, compared with the Middle East and the Asian subcontinent.
The survey, of 2,011 international travellers in 16 countries, was conducted by the polling firm RT Strategies for the Discover America Partnership, a business-backed group launched in September to promote travel to the US and improve the country's image abroad.
"The entry process has created a climate of fear and frustration that is keeping foreign visitors away," said Geoff Freeman, executive director of the Discover America Partnership.
"The survey shows there is more fear of our immigration officials than of terrorism or crime."
What is the premise of the survey's results? That travellers to the United States encounter more unpleasantness than in any other country in the world.
Complete bullshit.
Just look at the U.S. State Department's travel advisory for Saudi Arabia, just to pull one example of a worse country from the many that come to mind.
American citizens who choose to visit or remain in Saudi Arabia despite this Travel Warning are strongly urged to avoid staying in hotels or housing compounds that do not apply stringent security measures including, but not limited to, the presence of an armed guard force . . .
Not just a security guard, but an armed guard force!
. . . inspection of all vehicles, and a hardened security perimeter to prevent unauthorized vehicles from approaching the facility. American citizens are further advised to exercise caution and maintain good situational awareness when visiting commercial establishments frequented by Westerners or in primarily Western environments. Keep a low profile, varying times and routes for all required travel, and ensure that travel documents and visas are valid. American citizens are also advised to exercise caution while driving, entering or exiting vehicles.
And that's not just paranoid advice from a xenophobic American agency. If you want to talk about unfriendly to tourists, here's some advice from Saudi Arabia's own government website:
Important Instructions:
If a woman is arriving in the Kingdom alone, the sponsor or her husband must receive her at the airport.
Every woman must have confirmed accommodation for the duration of her stay in the Kingdom.
A woman is not allowed to drive a car and can therefore travel by car only if she is accompanied by her husband, a male relative, or a driver.
All visitors to the Kingdom must have a return ticket.
Here's more anecdotal info about the hassles one may encounter in the Saudi Kingdom, from the Lonely Planet's website:
There are NO visitor visas. It's not even possible to have a Saudi sponsor apply for the visa on my behalf. Visitors can ONLY visit to work, or for a religious visit.
Speaking of religious visits, people who do this who are muslims, can ONLY visit Mecca and Medina, and that's it. Travel to other Saudi cities is not allowed.
Anon, Canada (Mar 03)
One thing Anon from Canada didn't mention is that only those of the Islamic faith are allowed to set foot in Mecca or Medina. The rest of us are unclean or something, I guess. Not that I have any desire to get trampled to death in their crappy holy city anyway.
Back to the Lonely Planet:
WOMEN: We wear the abeyya so we get left alone. But even this doesn't work. We get stared at constantly and sometimes things are said. More so now after the September 11 disaster. I have never been barred from any establishment or had to leave because of prayer. Stealing wallets or purses out of expats handbags or backpacks as they walk around is common. We are not allowed to use the public transport.
PHOTOGRAPHY: Sure, film and cameras are everywhere. But, go and try to do a shoot around Jeddah. You will stop traffic, draw untold attention to yourself and if you are really lucky, the police will stop you and then the Matawwa [Saudi religious police] maybe will turn up which is what happened to me. You cannot take photos of people, any Palace or any government building. Now, as all three are everywhere, photography is difficult and not a delight.
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MATAWWA: If they are around, they will ask all women to cover their hair and generally have the police with them, so this is enforced. I have friends who did not have their scarf with them one night in Balad and the Matawwa made them go to a shop, buy one and put it on while they waited outside until the girls did. Jeddah is not as strict as Riyadh.
Alanna Lee, Saudi Arabia (Jan 02)
It gets worse. Here's what the British Embassy in Riyadh says about travel to Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia is a Muslim country in which Islamic law is strictly enforced.
The public practice of any form of religion other than Islam, or proselytising, is not permitted.
Islamic codes of behaviour and dress are also enforced rigorously. You should respect them fully.
Homosexual behaviour and adultery are illegal and can carry the death penalty.
The penalties for the possession of, or trade in, alcohol are severe. Both result in prison sentences. The punishment for importing drugs includes the death penalty. You should not arrive in Saudi Arabia under the influence of alcohol: the consequences could be serious. You should carry with you a doctorÂ’s prescription for any medication you have with you. The importation of pork products is also forbidden.
While the Saudi authorities say they accept the private practice of religious other than Islam, religious books (apart from the QuÂ’ran) and artefacts imported for personal use may be confiscated. Also, importing larger quantities can carry severe penalties as it will be viewed that it is your intention to convert (proselytise) others.
The possession of pornographic material, or of illustrations of scantily dressed people, especially women, is prohibited.
The Saudi legal system differs in many ways from the UK. Suspects can be held without charge and those detained have in the past not been allowed legal representation. The Saudi authorities have detained witnesses and victims of crimes. If you require consular assistance our staff will seek to visit you as soon as they are aware of the case. However, in some instances they have not been permitted to do so immediately or have had limits applied to access once granted. We have raised our concern about reports of mistreatment of some suspects during their detention.
Photography of government buildings, military installations and palaces is not allowed. You should avoid photographing local people. It is illegal for women to drive.
Anyone involved in a commercial dispute with a Saudi company or individual may be prevented from leaving the country pending resolution of the dispute.
Passports are often retained by sponsors or government bodies for official purposes. You should carry a photocopy of your passport. Make sure you have included in your passport details of those who should be contacted in an emergency.
It is illegal to hold two passports in Saudi Arabia: second passports will be confiscated by the immigration authorities if they are discovered.
. . .
On occasion, Saudi visas have been refused when passports have reflected travel to Israel or indicated an Israeli birthplace.
Women visitors and residents are required to be met by their sponsor upon arrival. Women travelling alone, who are not met by sponsors, have experienced delays before being allowed to enter the country or to continue on other flights.
Single parents or other adults travelling alone with children should be aware that some countries require documentary evidence of parental responsibility before allowing lone parents to enter the country, or in some cases, before permitting the children to leave the country. . . .
Foreign women married to Saudi nationals require permission from their husbands for themselves and their children to leave Saudi Arabia.
Bunch of backwards-ass dickwads. On any type of objective scale you'd want to use, Saudi Arabia has to be among the world's most unfriendly places for international travellers. I don't know about you, but I'd much rather deal with a rude customs guy than risk getting my head chopped off because I was wearing a sleeveless tee.
So how did the Discover America Partnership get it so wrong, when they decided that the United States is the most unfriendly nation for tourism? Simple, they didn't survey any visitors to Saudi Arabia.
Here's the list of Middle Eastern countries their survey compared to the United States:
1. United Arab Emirates
That's right, they only included one Middle Eastern country in their study. So when the above linked article claims "Twice the percentage of travellers nominated the US as unfriendly, compared with the Middle East and the Asian subcontinent," that's a bit misleading. Besides the fact that the U.A.E. might be the most westernized of any Middle Eastern nation besides Israel, how many respondents traveled there, compared with the the United States? Poor methodology, but you wouldn't know it from reading the headlines.
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Ha -- this "survey" must be an implicit admission that no one in his or her right mind would ever WANT to travel to Saudi Arabia. Jebus. What a disgusting country.
If they're basing this on customs then they're just not going to find a place anyone LIKES. International travel just sucks, period, ever since 9/11. I waited in the customs line almost two hours when I visited London a year and a half ago, and then the customs guy in London hassled me because I was traveling alone. Too bad I didn't have my male escort with me...
On the other hand, getting back into the States was pie. Quick and easy. Even more surprisingly, on a recent trip to Mexico -- one on which I purchased a hefty haul of high-quality Mexican booze -- I breezed right through US customs and they didn't even levy a duty on what I bought (even though they probably could've). They were smiley and nice. Maybe partly because I'm a citizen -- but so far, from MY experience, US beats the other countries I've visited. Granted, I've never dealt with immigration (and I wouldn't think anyone would have to if they were just a short-term visitor... if you're living here for six months I'm not counting that as "international travel." That's a change in your living situation).
Now, airport security/TSA and their incompetent staff, that's another issue entirely...
Posted by: The Law Fairy at January 26, 2007 08:48 PM (GFyfF)
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even if we tried real hard we could never be as unfriendly as the French or most of the Eurotards for that matter.
Utter crap.
Posted by: kyle8 at January 27, 2007 03:20 PM (TXleH)
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LF, I'm marking my calendar. FWIW, I know a guy who was beaten by the Matawwa because he LOOKED like a homosexual. Heh, he was in the Air Force, they were probably right.
Posted by: Casca at January 27, 2007 08:14 PM (2gORp)
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"The true measure of a country's greatness is determined by how many people are trying to get in" - Tony Blair
I don't hear about France or Saudi Arabia being swamped with immigrants.
Posted by: Joatmoaf at January 28, 2007 01:04 PM (UFK68)